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Old 03-31-2004, 12:28 AM
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I don't know why, but for the 5-6 years i have been lifting, deadlifts have never been a part of my workout. I am planning on incorporating them in very soon due to what i hear about them adding a lot of extra thickness to your back. What day do you guys do deads on? (ie: leg day, back day?) Also, what is a good range for reps? THanks a lot. Can't wait to start another power exercise.
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I don't know why, but for the 5-6 years i have been lifting, deadlifts have never been a part of my workout. I am planning on incorporating them in very soon due to what i hear about them adding a lot of extra thickness to your back. What day do you guys do deads on? (ie: leg day, back day?) Also, what is a good range for reps? THanks a lot. Can't wait to start another power exercise.
everyone has their own opinions on this. i think you can use deads on back days but i would do them following barbell rows as doing before rows leaves my lower back useless for the rows. recently, after reading freddy's and hogg's advice here on meso, i've tried them on leg day and they work just as well. i really like deads in the 6-8 range. higher reps, in the 10-15 range, are excruciating and quite taxing on your system. i've not tried lower reps, in the 1-3 range, in many years so i can't really comment. just try out a variety of rep schemes and different muscle group pairings and see what works for you. but definitely include them. you won't be sorry.
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Old 03-31-2004, 12:58 AM
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I like them on back day, but you can do them on leg day if you're a psycho. Personally, I like 5 or less reps. Much more than that and it's like running a fucking marathon.
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I would imagine they would be one of the first exercises you would doo in your workout no matter if on leg or back day correct? Except for before squats
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And are they more taxing on your legs or back? Like do you try to lift the weight as much as you can with your legs and your back kinda supports it? BTW, thanks for your help.
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And are they more taxing on your legs or back? Like do you try to lift the weight as much as you can with your legs and your back kinda supports it? BTW, thanks for your help.

they're harder on your back than your legs. i'm finding there are a large contention of guys who simply can't do them anymore - i know i won't be any time soon after yanking my back a couple weeks ago on a set of deads. they're a great movement but if you have an imbalance/shortcoming anywhere in your back it will bring the pain. check out the stickies for correct form.
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definitely get your form down. Phreezer may have posted a video. Start off light and get a lot of practice reps in b4 loading that damn bar up
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You start the pull with your legs and finish with your back. All in all, they're a total body movement to a "T".

I agree with Thick, also. Start light and work up. Work up slowly. Pick a weight that is relatively easy and force yourself to move up slowly each week(10 or MAYBE 20lbs) so that you can pick up the proper form and simulatneously strengthen all week links which could eliminate any problems that crewboss mentioned.

For instance, my back would always get tore ass up from doing squats. So, I dropped the weight to 135lbs and focused on form. In the subsequent weeks, I have only raised the weight by 10lbs, despite the fact that it kept me much below what I can actually do for many, many weeks. The end result is that I'm finally starting to get into semi-respectable weights and my back isn't getting all kinky and causing me to cut the workouts short.
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I do them first on leg day sometimes, last on leg day sometimes, last on back day sometimes or by themselves on hamstring day...sometimes....
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I don't know why, but for the 5-6 years i have been lifting, deadlifts have never been a part of my workout. I am planning on incorporating them in very soon due to what i hear about them adding a lot of extra thickness to your back.
I finally started incorporating deadlifts into my workout and I'm admittedly a little concerned about my back, esp. the lower back. My father has serious back problems (not from lifting) and I'd hate to end up like him. Anyway, being a tall lanky little bitch it's hard to get my form consistent. Considering the risks I'd simply not do them but my back is so weak that it fucks up the rest of the package
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This answers some of your problems in your bench thread. Tall and lanky = lots of stretch at the pec insertion= if it feels like it is going to pop than it probably will pretty soon. 2. You self admit that your back is so weak. To have a big bench you must have a strong back. Get on the rows and keep away from heavy benching until you feel like your back is caught up and you have the flexiblity. GO to dbs or incline as your primary chest Anyway, being a tall lanky little bitch it's hard to get my form consistent. Considering the risks I'd simply not do them but my back is so weak that it fucks up the rest of the package
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This answers some of your problems in your bench thread. Tall and lanky = lots of stretch at the pec insertion
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if it feels like it is going to pop than it probably will pretty soon.
Yikes! Wasn't sure if it would work itself out or not but now....I'd better just chill out on that bench.

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2. You self admit that your back is so weak. To have a big bench you must have a strong back. Get on the rows and keep away from heavy benching until you feel like your back is caught up and you have the flexiblity. GO to dbs or incline as your primary chest.
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