Dog-crap training?

[DACHANDE]

Originally Posted by NPayette

I'm doing it.
It's intense, it's not too much volume, the diet is a absolute pain in the ass but the results are amazing!!!

Naturally went from 180 to 192 in a 3 month blast and it was not fat, strenght went up CRAZY.

Chemically enhanced went from 187 to 220 in a 10 week blast (Currently still doing it). I'm actually a bit fatter then when I started but definitly a lot more muscular.

Strenght gone up crazy again...

Anyway I recommend it to anybody who can do 100% commitment to it. Diet wise and training wise (including the stretches)

Rolemodel i was quoting from above about the diet from another poster.

Could you explain the stretching a bit further Ill clarify so you can see what i mean. So after each last set the stretch is performed. Ex 2 exercises barbell bench press followed by incline dumbell presses. Is the stretch performed on the 4th set of bench press and then again on the last set of incline dumbell presses. Or just on the last set of that muscle group?

Same for biceps? Finish up your first exercise which might be standing barbell curls then do the stretch? Then do the next exercise 3 sets on the third set do the bicep stretch again?

also stretching like this on a pumped muscle would it yield stretch marks?

[role model]

Originally Posted by DACHANDE

Rolemodel i was quoting from above about the diet from another poster.

Could you explain the stretching a bit further Ill clarify so you can see what i mean. So after each last set the stretch is performed. Ex 2 exercises barbell bench press followed by incline dumbell presses. Is the stretch performed on the 4th set of bench press and then again on the last set of incline dumbell presses. Or just on the last set of that muscle group?

Same for biceps? Finish up your first exercise which might be standing barbell curls then do the stretch? Then do the next exercise 3 sets on the third set do the bicep stretch again?

also stretching like this on a pumped muscle would it yield stretch marks?

I do it just on my last set and no stretch marks for me.

[DACHANDE]

Ok last set of each exercise though? or last set for that muscle group?

[joseppe]

this is one of the dogg crap traing routines I observed from a different board:


1A
Incline Smith Machine Press (11-15rp)
Hammer Strength Shoulder Press (11-20rp)
Weighted Dips (11-20rp)
Pull-downs to Front (11-15rp)
Conventional Deadlift (work up to one heavy ss 6-9)

1B
Hammer Strength Press (11-15rp)
Smith Machine Seated Military Press to Front (11-20rp)
Smith Machine Close Grip Bench Press (11-20rp)
Rack Chins to Front (11-20rp)
Hammer Strength Row or T-Bar Row (one heavy ss 10-12)

1C
Decline Smith Machine Press (11-15rp)
Smith Machine Seated Military Press to Back (11-20rp)
EZ-Bar Skull Crushers (15-20rp)
Hammer Strength Pull-downs (11-15rp)
Rack Pulls (work up to one heavy ss 6-9)

2A
Barbell Curls(11-20rp)
Alternating Hammer Curls (one heavy ss of 10-20)
Calves on Leg Press (12 reps ss DC method)
Upright Leg Curls (15-30rp)
Olympic Squats (one heavy SS 6-10 + widowmaker)

2B
Alternating DB Curls (11-20rp)
Alternating Pinwheel Curls (one heavy ss of 10-20)
Seated Calf Raises (12 reps ss DC method)
Lying Leg Curls (15-30rp)
Hack Squat (one heavy SS 6-10 + widowmaker)

2C
Hammer Strength Curl Machine (11-20rp)
Reverse Grip One-Arm Cable Curls (one heavy SS 10-20)
Donkey Calf Raises (12 reps ss DC method)
Stiff-Leg Deadlifts (one heavy ss of 10-15)
Leg Press (one heavy SS 6-10 + widowmaker)


The guy plans to do a monday, wednesday, friday, running these in order, I guess its 2 sets per exercise? IM a bit sceptacle about this. It kind of reminds me of the old Bulgarian routine I got out of the back of a magazine once 10 years ago for $19.99
I just dont know fellas?

[role model]

The only problem I have with 2 sets is thats not much of a warm up.
I would do 4-5 sets on your 1st exercise so you get warmed up properly, then 2 sets on all remaining exercises.

[Jaack]

I don't see what all the fuss is about or how this method has critics?

This is how we used to train period.

I'm now 38, been away from the sport since 92-93. I trained in AZ and CA. At that time was when most of the routines accepted now were begun.

Guys found out through the steroid bible, that red book with the light blue print, that lactic acid plays a major role in building muscle.

Then the logic was go for the bur, and burn more. Gear will help you grow, but when exercising like that you might as well take up a trade, like brick laying. Constant low-mid weight/high reps.

A lot of guys were too embarrassed to admit they had the look, and could barely bench 300. But they could grab the 100DBs for 30 reps, so they were strong that way.

Still what's the point of only looking strong? It's like having one of those Lamboghini's that is really a body kit on a Fiero, or Camaro.

We always believed when on a cycle you would do things you never thought of to yourself to maximize the effectiveness of the AAS.

[shorty1980]

Originally Posted by role model

The only problem I have with 2 sets is thats not much of a warm up.
I would do 4-5 sets on your 1st exercise so you get warmed up properly, then 2 sets on all remaining exercises.

come on...didnt you read the DC text you posted????

you only do ONE set of most exercises (except back thickness and quads, and maybe straight leg deadlifts for hams....for these exercises you do 2 sets..one low rep..one higher rep)

obviously you do as many warm up sets as you need before you do your one working set. and you only do one exercises per body part.

the ONE set you do for an exercise (back thickness, quads excluded: you dont use rest pauses on these) consists of a reg set to failure after which you do 2 additional rest pause sets. (total reps between 12-30 reps..depending on exercise and bodypart)

jeeeeeez.

as for the stretches: you do the stretches after you finished each exercise.

chest exercise then chest stretch
shoulder exercise then shoulder stretch
tricep exercises then tricep stretch
etc..etc.

[role model]

Originally Posted by shorty1980

come on...didnt you read the DC text you posted????

you only do ONE set of most exercises (except back thickness and quads, and maybe straight leg deadlifts for hams....for these exercises you do 2 sets..one low rep..one higher rep)

obviously you do as many warm up sets as you need before you do your one working set. and you only do one exercises per body part.

the ONE set you do for an exercise (back thickness, quads excluded: you dont use rest pauses on these) consists of a reg set to failure after which you do 2 additional rest pause sets. (total reps between 12-30 reps..depending on exercise and bodypart)

jeeeeeez.

as for the stretches: you do the stretches after you finished each exercise.

chest exercise then chest stretch
shoulder exercise then shoulder stretch
tricep exercises then tricep stretch
etc..etc.

Hey Dumb ass, I was responding to someone else's training routine.(his way of doing it.)
He didn't do the warm ups, DC you do as many warm up sets as you need ya punk ass bitch!

[jmills]

that's not a very christian thing to say role!

couldn't help myself, I know, im an asshole

[role model]

Originally Posted by jmills

that's not a very christian thing to say role!

couldn't help myself, I know, im an asshole

You can't help it, thats just the way you are.