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Old 06-15-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Holy shit, look what I found on MSN!

http://articles.health.msn.com/id/100101230

This article actually makes sense. I'm friggin' amazed!
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Old 06-15-2005, 03:50 PM
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Wow is right, thats actually a good article.
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OMG! Common sense is actually going mainstream. Down with voodoo training.
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I only read it with the intention of picking it apart and, lo and behold, the article was good. I'm still reeling in amazement.
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What are your thoughts on #2? I had a bloody tampon-fest with some guys over at (I believe) Anabolic Research over that. They actually said that this whole article was crap, ESPECIALLY #2. I felt that they were correct, you're body can only use so much of ANYTHING, the rest is waste and/or can become harmful to the body. They were saying you should get 2g per bodyweight, 1.5 at the VERY LEAST....they used professional bodybuilders as their source of information.....
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:17 AM
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I'll tell you the answer before old Bobby Smith can get to it. According to the most up to date and reliable scientific research, .9 to 1.25 grams/lb of bodyweight is more than sufficient.
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When I read #4. I thought, "What? stretching?? But then I read #5. Ahhhh.

Weak as kittens... LOL. I love that phrase.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:58 AM
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What are your thoughts on #2? I had a bloody tampon-fest with some guys over at (I believe) Anabolic Research over that. They actually said that this whole article was crap, ESPECIALLY #2. I felt that they were correct, you're body can only use so much of ANYTHING, the rest is waste and/or can become harmful to the body. They were saying you should get 2g per bodyweight, 1.5 at the VERY LEAST....they used professional bodybuilders as their source of information.....
Morons with no clue.

# 1 - slow training has been PROVEN to be useless for muscular growth (and safety).

# 2 - More protein doesnt equal more muscle. More calories equals more muscle. And Grizz correctly stated what the research shows. Athletes dont need more than ~1.25g/lb.

# 3 - The only study that shows squats are bad goes all the way back to the 60s I believe it was. And it was a terribly designed study. More recent, and better designed, studies show that squats are safe for knees. Squats are more frequently used now in rehab than leg extensions are. Extensions are bad for knee health.

# 4 - Another garbage idea that BBers love to believe in. BBers still get their training information from the 1960s when training a bodypart once a week was considered the best. That has long since been shot to hell, but only BBers didnt read the memo. More frequent lifting (keeping same weekly volume) equals better results. And unless the soreness is because of injury and not from a little workout stress, you can certainly lift while mildly sore.

# 5 - Again, show in numerous studies that stretching does not prevent injuries. So unless you are a gymnast, you have no reason to stretch enough to be able to do splits or to put your feet behind your head. Stretch as much as is required to get your range of motion and then stop. Excessive stretching can actually weaken the joint and allow for too much bending when under pressure.

# 6 - I think swiss balls are crap and are simply another infomercial gimmick. The whole "lift in an unstable environment" has been grossly overdone and taken to extremes that are not beneficial.

# 7 - I dont necessarily think that free weights should be used exclusively, but I think about 90%+ of a persons workout should be free weights. EMG research shows more muscle activity with free weights than with machines.
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Did you guys notice that in #7 they quote "Greg Haff, Ph.D., director of the strength research laboratory at Midwestern State University in Wichita Falls, Texas."???

Did I mention that I'm from Texas?? What country are you from??

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The name of that university pisses me off. It confuses me every time. I keep thinking it's in Iowa or Kansas or somewhere in the Midwest, but it's in Texas. It's craziness I tell you.
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