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Old 03-24-2004, 03:56 AM
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Chis, for a guy with only 19 posts youre gettin pretty snappy.
Been that way since post number 1. At least he's making sense this time.
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Crossovers are a waste of...well, everything. Gym space, air required to do them, and so on. Probably one of the most useless movements known to man.

And yes, there is no "inner" pec. There is simply upper and low (pec major and minor).

I know there is no inner pec, but you can still do exercises that will place more emphasis on the inside of your chest. You can't tell me that Arnold doesn't know what he is talking about, when he clearly states that you can hit different areas of your chest, he didn't say that there is a inner chest muscle, but he did say that you can work different areas on the chest. I respect the knowledge that you have of bodybuilding bob, but i do disagree somewhat of what you are saying. Have a good day.

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grisb, bob isn't being pessimistic, he is telling the truth, that you either have it or you don't ... you will not be able to change the shape of the muscle ... that's why some pros have a awesome peak and some don't.
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Ok, last time....YOU (Giovanni) CANNOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, "CREATE" A HIGHER BICEP PEAK!

The only way you will change your peak is to make your entire biceps bigger. Thats it, end of story.
Well Mr Smith you are wrong this time. I tore both my bi's, had the right one repaired but not the left and I have a real nice peak on it . So there, just tear your bicep and you'll have the peak you're looking for.........11
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Old 03-24-2004, 05:31 PM
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I know there is no inner pec, but you can still do exercises that will place more emphasis on the inside of your chest.
If there is no inner pec, which there isnt, then how do you stress a certain portion of a muscle group? Either the pec major contracts or it does not. You cannot put emphasis on say, the inside 1-3 inches of that muscle. Its not possible.


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You can't tell me that Arnold doesn't know what he is talking about, when he clearly states that you can hit different areas of your chest
I can absolutely say that Arnold doesnt know what hes talking about. See my above comment. Hes wrong, plain and simple.



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he didn't say that there is a inner chest muscle, but he did say that you can work different areas on the chest.
Right - upper and lower. Not different portions of the same muscle (pec major). Hes wrong.

Just because someone had an amazing physique, one that most likely I will never come close to, doesnt mean that he knows what hes talking about.
Conversely, that also doesnt mean that a small person doesnt know what they are talking about.

A good friend of mine is small, maybe 150-160 pounds. He is an expert in nutrition, biochem, and exercise science. He knows more than probably 99% of all so-called experts in nutrition. Just because he's small doesnt mean that he doesnt know what hes talking about. Im sure youve heard of him, his name is Lyle McDonald.
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Just because someone had an amazing physique, one that most likely I will never come close to, doesnt mean that he knows what hes talking about.
Conversely, that also doesnt mean that a small person doesnt know what they are talking about.


Good point, Just if someone is great at a sport doesn't mean he'll be a great coach. some of the best minds in sports were never very good at that sport.....11
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Any recomendations on a good peak? I have tried all types of workouts and can't get a good peak. What do you bros do to get your biceps to peak out?
Without being too much of a smart ass, the best way to get a peak on your biceps is to go back to God and ask him for genetics for a biceps peak.

Of course, you never mentioned your routine, so it's difficult to answer. Assuming you have the basics down - heavy curling of some type whether it be seated, standing, barbell or dumbbell - what type of weight are you lifting? How many reps? What is your back / chest routine like?

These are all factors in trying to determine how to approach getting quality biceps.
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Lets not knock Arnold to much here, you cannot contract part of a muscle, its all or nothing. But I assume Arnold knew this, but he was a savvy businessman. Foolish people want to hear that they can work out part of a muscle or spot reduce fat etc. so he was just telling people what they wanted to hear to make money. Is that honest, of course not, but in my opinion few people who are truely good at business marketing are. Arnold was one of the bodybuilding greats he knew what he was doing, even if his books state otherwise.
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I dont think business had anything to do with his claims back in the 70s.

AdamTheStud, even though you deleted your post, I can still read it. Kind of amusing, but youre still wrong.
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Knowledge is power, especially when it comes to lifting. Which is why i respect you guys on this board. As far as that goes I dont believe that Arnold could have been as sucessful as he was if he truly believed some of the stuff he preached in his books. But thats just my opinion.
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