How Many Days Per Week Do you Train?

[Starkraven]

yes i understand food is very important to grow, but i think i am under too much stress all the time. it will never go away. im always pissed off about the world. about my financial situation, i am 21 i cant afford shit, my car is half my payment which i think i am going to save for a new car and give this one up, i barely juice which pisses me off, i dont reach any goals i set for myself, sometimes i feel like i am at a dead-end with my life, mainly financially. btw, even if i did have lots of money, i still find alot of things in the world that piss me off too fast but having money and being settled would make me feel alot better and lower stress. i am making $6/hr cash working 30-40 hours per week, so i need to do something with myself right now, i am just getting older and more miserable each year. i was thinking of real estate because i dont want to go to a 6 year college and graduate and find out there are no jobs available. fuckin pathetic shit.

[Hogg]

i was thinking of real estate because i dont want to go to a 6 year college and graduate and find out there are no jobs available. fuckin pathetic shit.

You are much better off slugging out an undergrad than looking for another way to make a buck. Selling real estate and writing mortgages will taper off....it has already.....and if you dont believe me, take a look at what the nations leading mortgage bankers are saying about the real estate industry.....so what else? Well, you're not capitalized enough to day trade and without some decent math and analytical skills, you'd get slaughtered anyway so we can forget this option. What next? Got 80 grand to invest in a coin-op laundromat? No, hmmm, well lets see now......errr, how long can you exist on $ 6/hr cash???? Lets see, if you were paying taxes, that would equate to roughly $ 7.05/hr working above board....meaning that a clerk job at home depot would probably give you what you're making now plus benefits and some stable wage increases based on tenure ...not a bad option.....and you could still hit the local state university at night on the 8-12 unit plan per semester.....what other options are there??? Hmmm, well, seems a lot of guys make money selling gear.....hey, now there's an idea, but you're not capitalized enough to buy 10-15K worth of product to get started so forget it ...not to mention that it is a felony if you get caught.....hmmmm, how about the other side of the equation??? how about becoming a cop??? Nah, why? Because I think they are now hip to the guys with high school paper who have no other option to make 50K.....and if you're pissed at the world, a 40 year old interviewer has probably seen your kind a thousand times already....you probably would not make it through the psych screen. What other options are there???? errrr, well, you could join a building trades union. Electricians, pipe fitters, welders, and carpenters (to a lesser degree) all do well. There is also the military but I dont think its a good option because the payout for 4 years of your life is not that great. I can think of other ways to come up with money for college via grants.

Well, my best advice to someone your age is to do what you dont want to do.....go to school and slug out an undergrad. I attempted to keep my analysis of your situation rather jovial but the reality is, unless your dad is leaving you a business or you have some money behind you via other avenues, the likelihood of making a decent living without a college education is pretty slim. A skilled trade will pay well and if you are inclined to be a pipe fitter or electrician, you will beat the starting salaries of most sundry degrees after 4 years of apprenticeship while simultaneously building hours toward your pension...and thats another thing, the unions are the last bastion for pensions....most all other businesses are going to 401Ks now.

One last bit of advice, cars are cash eaters, not generators. If you ate the depreciation on a new vehiicle, it is either time to resolve to a 10 year hold on that vehicle or give it back to the bank and take the 7 year hit on your credit. Typically, one's credit report is something that I would never recommend taking a negative on but if you do not have the capital to absorb the depreciation of a vehicle's worth in its first few years, you might as well give it back and cut your losses. Buy yourself something that is dependable and gets you from point a to point b ....that is all a car is. If you have to have all the bling bling look-at-me shit going on and you're trying to make it happen on 6 bucks an hour cash, you're priorities are way wrong.

These are my words of advice to you and they are sincere. They are not meant to be condescending....I wouldnt spend 5 minutes responding to your thread if I was not trying to be helpful.

H

[Starkraven]

well im fucked. i dont have a father, he died he didnt leave me no business, but some money to my mom, i live with her and my 3 brothers. 2 of them go to school and work, i just cant seem to do it, man. btw, i have been busted before already and do have a felony on my record for selling juice, actually it was possession for sale. im really fucked man. as for the car, it was my brother's on my mom's name, he got himself a new car, he has a great job at countrywide home loans, i cant work there because of my record. i dont have a car and she was ready to turn the car back to the dealer, its lease was due, it was 4 years, so i begged her for it, at the time i had a little better job, 7.50 cash per hour but i need a car here in LA or else i wont even be able to get to work!!. or anywhere. i cant ask my mom for rides like i did for 5 months straight, i would rather die. also, i already have bad credit now for 3 years because of medical bills, i feel like blowing my brains out right now this is no joke.

Originally Posted by Hogg

You are much better off slugging out an undergrad than looking for another way to make a buck. Selling real estate and writing mortgages will taper off....it has already.....and if you dont believe me, take a look at what the nations leading mortgage bankers are saying about the real estate industry.....so what else? Well, you're not capitalized enough to day trade and without some decent math and analytical skills, you'd get slaughtered anyway so we can forget this option. What next? Got 80 grand to invest in a coin-op laundromat? No, hmmm, well lets see now......errr, how long can you exist on $ 6/hr cash???? Lets see, if you were paying taxes, that would equate to roughly $ 7.05/hr working above board....meaning that a clerk job at home depot would probably give you what you're making now plus benefits and some stable wage increases based on tenure ...not a bad option.....and you could still hit the local state university at night on the 8-12 unit plan per semester.....what other options are there??? Hmmm, well, seems a lot of guys make money selling gear.....hey, now there's an idea, but you're not capitalized enough to buy 10-15K worth of product to get started so forget it ...not to mention that it is a felony if you get caught.....hmmmm, how about the other side of the equation??? how about becoming a cop??? Nah, why? Because I think they are now hip to the guys with high school paper who have no other option to make 50K.....and if you're pissed at the world, a 40 year old interviewer has probably seen your kind a thousand times already....you probably would not make it through the psych screen. What other options are there???? errrr, well, you could join a building trades union. Electricians, pipe fitters, welders, and carpenters (to a lesser degree) all do well. There is also the military but I dont think its a good option because the payout for 4 years of your life is not that great. I can think of other ways to come up with money for college via grants.

Well, my best advice to someone your age is to do what you dont want to do.....go to school and slug out an undergrad. I attempted to keep my analysis of your situation rather jovial but the reality is, unless your dad is leaving you a business or you have some money behind you via other avenues, the likelihood of making a decent living without a college education is pretty slim. A skilled trade will pay well and if you are inclined to be a pipe fitter or electrician, you will beat the starting salaries of most sundry degrees after 4 years of apprenticeship while simultaneously building hours toward your pension...and thats another thing, the unions are the last bastion for pensions....most all other businesses are going to 401Ks now.

One last bit of advice, cars are cash eaters, not generators. If you ate the depreciation on a new vehiicle, it is either time to resolve to a 10 year hold on that vehicle or give it back to the bank and take the 7 year hit on your credit. Typically, one's credit report is something that I would never recommend taking a negative on but if you do not have the capital to absorb the depreciation of a vehicle's worth in its first few years, you might as well give it back and cut your losses. Buy yourself something that is dependable and gets you from point a to point b ....that is all a car is. If you have to have all the bling bling look-at-me shit going on and you're trying to make it happen on 6 bucks an hour cash, you're priorities are way wrong.

These are my words of advice to you and they are sincere. They are not meant to be condescending....I wouldnt spend 5 minutes responding to your thread if I was not trying to be helpful.

H

[Starkraven]

btw, as for my priorities, im really into bodybuilding, not like a hobby, but like something i live for, i want to have that in front of everything so it is like im a drug addict, only i dont buy coke, i have to buy food and juice and i cant even do that i fuckin hate my life driving around dreaming of this shit, and i just payed my car, but how would i get to the gym with no car, i need to figure this shit out it has made me miserable for years and i cant deal with it anymore. the car is nice but i dont fuckin want it, i dont need no bling-bling look but i need a car, how would i get to work with no car? i didnt have a choice, it was either this car or nothing. my mom wont help me of course because im 21 and i should pay for my own shit. my life is pointless. what the hell should i do?

Originally Posted by Starkraven

well im fucked. i dont have a father, he died he didnt leave me no business, but some money to my mom, i live with her and my 3 brothers. 2 of them go to school and work, i just cant seem to do it, man. btw, i have been busted before already and do have a felony on my record for selling juice, actually it was possession for sale. im really fucked man. as for the car, it was my brother's on my mom's name, he got himself a new car, he has a great job at countrywide home loans, i cant work there because of my record. i dont have a car and she was ready to turn the car back to the dealer, its lease was due, it was 4 years, so i begged her for it, at the time i had a little better job, 7.50 cash per hour but i need a car here in LA or else i wont even be able to get to work!!. or anywhere. i cant ask my mom for rides like i did for 5 months straight, i would rather die. also, i already have bad credit now for 3 years because of medical bills, i feel like blowing my brains out right now this is no joke.

[Starkraven]

Originally Posted by BioAS

If you are looking to save money go with a home gym...I am a trainer at a commercial gym...and i do not even touch the damn machines with a paying client...we do free weights...ball exercies...and bodyweight exercises...my clients look better than most in the gym. Point is you do not need to fork over money for expensive equipment...machines suck anyways no recruitement of stabilizer muscles and I am sick of the saying "oh it isolates the muscle.." What the freak!!!!...anyways just a thought. Hell I could but someone through a workout in a parking lot more intense pushing trucks and cars then a freakin cybex machine...and i realize i do not know your training regimen...i am just venting...anyways good luck.

hey bro i never used machines for more than a workout or two ever. i always used free weights for 4 years now. i could just train at home, but my friend will probably get me a membership at bally's for $8.50 per month because he's a member for 6 years already. i could workout at home with an olympic bar of course and some weights, beats the drive to my gym now. i am thinking about it. im thinking i should drop the car, get 2 jobs close-by (i will have to ask my mother for rides which sucks, and no more visiting my best couple of friends for a little while), bring in good money dont spend it for 2 months (only on food that i need) and buy a car for $2k, train at ballys or home, and start attending some type of school? i just dont know what. i want to do something i like, but i dont like anything. i really dont. those that have jobs they like are either lucky or have done the hard work and went to school for a long time and did it right. i think im just a fuck up. honestly..

btw, would pushing trucks and cars develop your muscles? or were you just being sarcastic?

[Grizzly]

Are you kidding? Is there really a question as to whether pushing a 3000lb object would grow muscles?

Here's a goddamn good option/solution. Buy a bike or try walking. I live in the midwest. It's a 3 mile round trip for me to go to the grocery store. 3 months out of the year(now until march) it's freezing cold...literally. I go to the store just about everyday. How do I get there? On my fucking feet even though it's cold and far. The return trip is great! 50lbs of groceries to carry. Boy, do I love that

You live in LA where it's 70 all the fucking time. Suck it up, dude. Walk or ride a bike. 10 miles is a piece of cake on a bike. I hate those things, but you do what you've got to do.

6 year school? Where the fuck are you planning on going. Sure, I've taken 6 1/2 years to graduate, but I also have 2 degrees, 5 classes I took for fun and 7 I ended up not needing and I've taken 4 classes in the last 1 1/2 years. If we break this down, I should have been out in 4 1/2 to 5 yrs with TWO degrees. It's not a 6 year deal, bro.

Hogg's right. Go to home depot or something. You'll make more.

Point is, instead of bitching about how everything is fucked up, do something about it. The bicycle being the best idea. Then you could build your legs everywhere you go.

[Phreezer]

Grizz is right...It's a hard dose of reality,,,but you just need to suck it up, and grow up, and bite the bullet for awhile. Get your life in order first, and that means GET A JOB and stick with it..SAVE YOUR MONEY...then get a car, get back in school...Drop the loser friends, and just GROW UP....I know it's hard, and I don't wanna come off mean..but damn man, it's time!

When I was a child I spoke and acted as a Child

But now that I am a man, I have put away childish things...

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by Phreezer

When I was a child I spoke and acted as a Child

But now that I am a man, I have put away childish things...

Does that mean I have to stop sleeping with stuffed animals and playing with GI JOE now that I'm 25? This sucks!!!

[Hogg]

I received your PM this morning Starkraven and its not really a case where you need help, it is a case where you need to change the road that you are on. There is a seat for every ass...literally....and if you dont like the seat that you are in, you can change it. It might not be easy, it might not leave you with time to go to the gym, but thats the fucking breaks pal.

Your brain should be focussed on increasing your earnings potential rather than on bodybuilding. Quite frankly, much like motocross, a number of young men throw their lives away in bodybuilding and end up with nothing when they get to the end of the road. Only a few make it....and it probably wont be you....so get your ass in school and make something of yourself.

End of discussion.

[Starkraven]

Originally Posted by Phreezer

Grizz is right...It's a hard dose of reality,,,but you just need to suck it up, and grow up, and bite the bullet for awhile. Get your life in order first, and that means GET A JOB and stick with it..SAVE YOUR MONEY...then get a car, get back in school...Drop the loser friends, and just GROW UP....I know it's hard, and I don't wanna come off mean..but damn man, it's time!

When I was a child I spoke and acted as a Child

But now that I am a man, I have put away childish things...

i do have a job, it might not be the best job, but i got it, and im trying to get 40 hours per week. im giving up the car in a month since i payed for this months and getting a bicycle, i can manage for 2 months that way while i save up $2k for a reliable car, i dont care what kind of car i have, i just need a reliable one, i can still make it to the gym with a bicycle anyway for 2 months, its not that far away. and i close the night shift at 3 am, i guess i will be riding the bike home for a little while. with this car, i just cant seem to do much, i suffer either way so its better to just get a cheap, reliable car. about the school thing, is this the best option as opposed to a trade or real estate? i dont even know what to get into, im old enough that i cant decide anymore on what occupation to go with, so i am asking for suggestions. thanks.

[Desibaba]

Another option.Although i will be the first one to say this is not the best would be to get a 2nd job and start saving for college.You said you work 40 hrs a week and dont go to school.Sure it might be hard but start somewhere.Get a part time one for around 20 hrs a week and keep your full time job as well.Secondly try working for a corporation instead of a private owner.The private owners dont give benefits and long term help like a corporation can.I know of this guy who works at publix who has just a high school degree but started working there.He started making his way up and now he is the meat department manager.He makes around 60 k a year.Im not saying this is a lot of money but for a guy with no education its not that bad either.Good Luck and keep trying.As long as you have hope you will find a way.

[billj]

Go in the military. It was the best thing I ever did.

[Grizzly]

Hate to break it to you, but "realiable car" and "2000 dollars" don't go in the same sentence. Multiply that by 4 or 5 and then you'll have reliable.

Wake up! Your job sucks monkey nuts!!!!! It's not that it's "not the best job", it sucks monkey nuts!!!! Let me reiterate. It sucks monkey nuts!!!! Like Hogg said, you'll make better money at a fucking grocery store. Change jobs, dude. You don't have a choice. Just do it.

Real Estate? Try it. Either way, you still need some schoolin'. Trade? Much better idea. Of course, you'll need a connection to get into the union. College? What the hell are you thinking? You've got two brothers in school. How the hell did you go wrong? Get into school. It'll suck, but do it.

High school education = dumb fucker who will never get a decent job, unless he was born before 1960.

College degree = the minimum requirement.

Masters degree = what a college degree used to be in terms of employability.

[Meathead74]

Originally Posted by Hogg

There is also the military but I dont think its a good option because the payout for 4 years of your life is not that great. I can think of other ways to come up with money for college via grants.
H

Jeez Hogg, take it easy on us military guys....we get to see the world. I personally have seen Germany through the windows of an airport, have been to a couple of the 'stans, and got to go on vacation to Afghanistan for free for 8 months!!! We get to shoot some sweet ass weapons and blow shit up! However, on the downside, I think that this has ruined my outlook on hunting with a shotgun! Also, the 60k that I get when I get ut of the army is has no taxes placed on it....I look at it as a 15,000 dollar bonus a year!!! LOL In all acutality, I really like my job...always something to look into.

Meathead

[Desibaba]

Hey meathead do you need an american citizenship to join the military or will just a green card do?