HST 2nd cycle

[eleven11]

Just started my next round of hst after a week off, anyway after Mon. workout I'm sore as hell mostly in my legs. I even noticed at the end of last week doing cardio that my legs were a little sore. Is this pretty normal with this program as for as after the week off. It seems that I read that this might happen........11

[Chip Bronson]

hey 11, i thought you were supposed to take like 10-12 days of to fully decondition, no? are you doing the 15's or have you skipped right to the 10's? i'm starting my second week of 5's today and i've enjoyed the 5's more than the 10's and 15's. but i got the greatest gains (in arm measurement) during the 15's.

[eleven11]

I thought I read 1 week. and I'm starting with the 15's. I thought the first week of 5's was the easiest. but the 2wks of MR will kick your ass. I def. felt more pumped up during the 15s and 10s..........11

[Bob Smith]

After your first cycle and and deconditioning, most people will either do one week of 15s or skip right to the 10s. If your joints are feeling a little stressed, then I would recommend doing the 15s.

SDs are usually about 9-14 days. Its possible you came back a little early, but shouldnt be a big deal. Then after this cycle you could take a longer SD to see how it compares.

[thick]

10 days is what i have done. The soreness all over again is normal. Look how many weeks since you have done 15 reps lol. I am on my second week of 15's right now. The last 2 weeks of 5's or negs can really take their toll. How did you like it overall eleven?

Originally Posted by eleven11

I thought I read 1 week. and I'm starting with the 15's. I thought the first week of 5's was the easiest. but the 2wks of MR will kick your ass. I def. felt more pumped up during the 15s and 10s..........11

[Chip Bronson]

hey bob and thick, gotta a question about my last 2 weeks of 5's which will be starting next week. i'm not doing negatives as i don't want re-injure my forearm so i was thinking of sticking with the final weight i'll have at the end of this week and, over the next 2 weeks, just increase reps on the exercises every workout. do you guys think that's better, in terms of avoiding injury, than continuing to increase the weights used? thanks in advance.

[eleven11]

My bad it was 9 days. ended on a fri. started a week from the following mon. I forgot to count the weekends......11

Thick
Overall I was happy with HST. I saw some good gains and burnt some BF. I'm in the process of trying to get lean now so the body weight is starting to drop. I finished at 200lbs 5' 9 1/2: up from 193. i'm back down to 195 now. Would like to get to single digets in BF, I'm guessing I'm at 12% now, upper abs are showing and the veins in my arms are coming out.........11

[thick]

DONT INCREASE THE WEIGHT. Bryan posted a few weeks ago that he recommended adding an extra set or if you do 4 sets total for chest like 2 sets of bench and 2 sets of incline db than do 4 sets of bench monday, 4 sets of incl on wed etc. So you would be doing 4 sets of 5 reps with your previous 1 set 5 rep max. If it is a bodypart where you only do one exercise than I would add a set or two to it depending on how you feel.

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

hey bob and thick, gotta a question about my last 2 weeks of 5's which will be starting next week. i'm not doing negatives as i don't want re-injure my forearm so i was thinking of sticking with the final weight i'll have at the end of this week and, over the next 2 weeks, just increase reps on the exercises every workout. do you guys think that's better, in terms of avoiding injury, than continuing to increase the weights used? thanks in advance.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

hey bob and thick, gotta a question about my last 2 weeks of 5's which will be starting next week. i'm not doing negatives as i don't want re-injure my forearm so i was thinking of sticking with the final weight i'll have at the end of this week and, over the next 2 weeks, just increase reps on the exercises every workout. do you guys think that's better, in terms of avoiding injury, than continuing to increase the weights used? thanks in advance.

I think it really depends. You could continue to use the weight for your 6th workout and try to add reps whenever possible. Or you could add 5-10 pounds (depending on movement) whenever you can hit your 2-3 sets of 5s at your current weight.

Or you could just follow Thicks advice and add a set or two to increase volume.

[Chip Bronson]

thanks thick. i'll increase the volume then.

[thick]

did you get a lot stronger or just underestimate your 5 rep max? In your situation I feel very strongly that increased volume is the way to go. Sidenote, i went to BH's site and looked at some SD info. Seems like it should vary b/n individuals depending on how you feel coming off your hst cycle. If you are feeling overtrained than closer to 14 days. If you are going to do the 15's again and dont feel too bad, than 7-9 days is pretty much what i got from it.

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

thanks thick. i'll increase the volume then.

[Chip Bronson]

Originally Posted by thick

did you get a lot stronger or just underestimate your 5 rep max? In your situation I feel very strongly that increased volume is the way to go. Sidenote, i went to BH's site and looked at some SD info. Seems like it should vary b/n individuals depending on how you feel coming off your hst cycle. If you are feeling overtrained than closer to 14 days. If you are going to do the 15's again and dont feel too bad, than 7-9 days is pretty much what i got from it.

hey bro, i've been taking this new stuff called methyldienolone for the last 2 weeks and, let me tell you, holy shit!!! killer stuff. no weight gain, but i've gotten really strong, really quick. and i seem to be leaning out. to prevent myself from getting injured, i've reduced my rest times between sets to about a minute for deads and squats and about 30-45 seconds for arms, chest and shoulders. and this is with the 5's!!! and even with this little rest, i'm still getting stronger and lifting more. my endurance is going through the roof as i don't feel the least bit tired while doing cardio on an incline treadmill following the weights. i know it's hard to believe, but it's true. this stuff is outrageous and i highly recommend it. the only sides i see are a bit of pimples on the shoulders/back and it takes me longer to come.

[thick]

Sounds like the last few weeks have been pretty damn good in terms of progress. I know HST isn't geared towards strength but it is a definite byproduct. Glad you are enjoying that supplement. I dont know anything about it.

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

hey bro, i've been taking this new stuff called methyldienolone for the last 2 weeks and, let me tell you, holy shit!!! killer stuff. no weight gain, but i've gotten really strong, really quick. and i seem to be leaning out. to prevent myself from getting injured, i've reduced my rest times between sets to about a minute for deads and squats and about 30-45 seconds for arms, chest and shoulders. and this is with the 5's!!! and even with this little rest, i'm still getting stronger and lifting more. my endurance is going through the roof as i don't feel the least bit tired while doing cardio on an incline treadmill following the weights. i know it's hard to believe, but it's true. this stuff is outrageous and i highly recommend it. the only sides i see are a bit of pimples on the shoulders/back and it takes me longer to come.

[Chip Bronson]

Originally Posted by thick

Sounds like the last few weeks have been pretty damn good in terms of progress. I know HST isn't geared towards strength but it is a definite byproduct. Glad you are enjoying that supplement. I dont know anything about it.

i've had a great time throughout this whole hst cycle so far and i will definitely hit it up for another 8 weeks after sd. and, believe me, you WILL be hearing a lot regarding methyldienolone over the next few months. i've never done anything like this. great results, virtually side-effect free.

[thick]

where did u get it from? what type of price range and dosages? How did u hear about it? I am always skeptical about this stuff but you have nothing to gain by falsifying results with it so I trust your opinion. Unless of course you own the co. or something, than i would say u r full of shit

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

i've had a great time throughout this whole hst cycle so far and i will definitely hit it up for another 8 weeks after sd. and, believe me, you WILL be hearing a lot regarding methyldienolone over the next few months. i've never done anything like this. great results, virtually side-effect free.