Ideas for a back routine?

[deathgrip07]

Anyone have some ideas for a new back routine for me? Lats are lagging, and can't seem to make them really grow much. Currently I do:
Bent Rows
T-bar Row
Pulldown or pull-up
One Arm DB Row
No Deads lately, tweaked my lower back a month or so ago (giving it some rest now).
I switch it around a lot though, I am always looking for what will work best, and am having trouble finding it.

[role model]

Originally Posted by deathgrip07

Anyone have some ideas for a new back routine for me? Lats are lagging, and can't seem to make them really grow much. Currently I do:
Bent Rows
T-bar Row
Pulldown or pull-up
One Arm DB Row
No Deads lately, tweaked my lower back a month or so ago (giving it some rest now).
I switch it around a lot though, I am always looking for what will work best, and am having trouble finding it.

Looks good, do you have the mind muscle connection? pulling without using arms to much, pull straight from the elbows back. Hard to explain.

[deathgrip07]

I thought I had the connection... and my girl tells me my back looks bigger/wider, but it's definitely lagging. I don't bother with the pulldowns as much anymore, because I can barely feel them in the lats. I stick mostly to the other stuff I listed, and I can't wait till my back heals up, so i can get back to Deads. Maybe I should try to bump up the weight on my lifts.
Thanks for the input RM.

[role model]

Here, clips 1-5 is his back routine. Heres #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtXIsUG_JZY

[deathgrip07]

Thanks for posting the link... i just watched some of it. Kind of feeds the fire. Of course he outweighs me by about 100lbs there, but I think I need to bump up the weight, lately I have been very strict with the form... maybe I should ease up on being so strict and just smash some weight for a while. I did notice his posterior Delts are absolutely sick! I'll have to look for his shoulder routine to see what he does for them.
Thanks again RM. Any and all input is truly appreciated.

[Thickneck]

Chins , bent rows , deads , and shrugs for traps. I never see anyone doing any bent over rows, big mistake.

[Thickneck]

I forgot to mention to do your bent rows at about a 45 degree angle , you will be able to row alot more lb's.

[role model]

Originally Posted by Thickneck

I never see anyone doing any bent over rows, big mistake.

What? If you mean at a 90 degree angle you correct but otherwise I have no idea what your talking about.

[Thickneck]

I meant between straight up and all the way bent over . In the middle of those to . I guess i don't know my angles very well.

[deathgrip07]

I think as far as the angle goes... its up to the person doing the lifting. I tend to choose a slightly different angle each session.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by role model

Looks good, do you have the mind muscle connection?

Put down the Mens Health and get a clue. This whole "mind muscle" connection is Weider bullshit from the 1970s. I bet you still think getting a pump and getting sore means youre doing a good job, right?

[role model]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Put down the Mens Health and get a clue. This whole "mind muscle" connection is Weider bullshit from the 1970s. I bet you still think getting a pump and getting sore means youre doing a good job, right?

Obviously you don't have it or you would understand. It is 100% real bro. Not on all exercises but most.
And I rarely get sore anymore; fatigued yes / soar no .

[deathgrip07]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Put down the Mens Health and get a clue. This whole "mind muscle" connection is Weider bullshit from the 1970s. I bet you still think getting a pump and getting sore means youre doing a good job, right?

Who gives a rats ass about Men's Health magazine? You're the person whose obviously read it, since you knew that the "mind muscle" connection bullshit was in there at some point.

Maybe RoleModel didn't put his idea into the proper words for your liking, but the basic premise is correct... simply keeping your thought's on the task at hand, usually helps you accomplish a task more successfully. Try reading a book, while thinking about getting laid, what's for dinner, work, etc... and then see how well your actual comprehension of that material was. It will be piss poor, It doesn't work.

Everyday in the gym, we all see people merely "going through the motions". What progress are they really making? Sure they get a pump, and sore, but they never really physically show much of a difference. It's undeniable, you have to keep your head in the game, I believe that's what RM meant. Ease up on the attacks, they are a weakness of character, especially when applied when someone is simply looking for a little advice.

[Bob Smith]

Being focused in the gym is one thing, but this new age psychobabble mind-muscle connection that is talked about in muscle mags is complete garbage. I know some of the largest (and strongest) guys youre ever likely to meet and not a single one of them worries about "feeling the muscle work" when theyre at the gym. What do they focus on in the gym? Pushing/pulling things that are obscenely heavy without getting injured. Plain and simple.

[lkrfan]

one other exercise that is awesome is one arm pulls. you go to any cable where you do tricep pushes, and put a single handle on, then squat down some and keep your back straight. Pull the handle down along your side until your elbow touches your hip, works great for lats.