Need help with studies???

[thick]

Okay, I am sure many of you remember my thread where I started my 7 yo lifting. He is still at it and really enjoying it. The problem is his mom(my ex wife). She lives with a 100 pound female personal fitness bitch that is telling her how unhealthy and bad it is for me to have him lifting. The ex and I have gotten in a few arguments over this. I need any links to studies or articles that you guys may have.

This weekend kinda sucked. The ex stays with me every 4-6 weeks and just hangs out. She cleaned my office and home. My son was all excited about showing her some lifts. He grabs two 10 lb db's and was like this is the farmers walk, this is how you do a db row, This is a bench press, and than went to show her how to do a squat and she was like I dont want to see anymore. THat is way too much weight blah blah blah. Any suggested articles would be much appreciated

[Bob Smith]

I know that JS made a post a while back about how much safer lifting is as opposed to soccer. And this is coming from a very high level S&C coach. Ill see if I can locate it for you.

[Bob Smith]

BTW, and tell your ex that if she doesnt keep her mouth shut, your boy is gonna go over to her house and kick this shit out of that 100 pound "trainer."

[thick]

lmao, she needs her ass handed to her. The worst part is that my ex cant stand her either but is getting brainwashed. I remember that study by js. I hope u can find it

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

BTW, and tell your ex that if she doesnt keep her mouth shut, your boy is gonna go over to her house and kick this shit out of that 100 pound "trainer."

[Bob Smith]

Freddy is going to try to help out, as he is JS's official bitch.

[Freddy]

Being JS's official bitch, I can assure you that the sum stresses on growth plates and bone tissue are much greater from repetitive movements, like soccer, than they are for brief periods of max or near max work.

I will talk to JS about this soon for you thick, he's been really busy lately, so I can't promise it will be tonight, but hopefully at some point this week. Sorry I can't help out more.

[Freddy]

I also forgot to mention that JS has trained a ton of kids 10 and under, and none have had any development problems as a result of lifting. Their only side effects are increased strength and coordination, balance, speed, agility, and work ethic.

The important thing is to "let them be kids", and I know you already know this, Thick. As long as he gets to eat his Cheetos and have his play time, the lifting will not be bad for him.

[thick]

I totally agree. He gets plenty of playtime. He said this weekend that he hopes he can put his weights with mine when we move b/c he would love to be able to lift with me. He is really into it. He wants to do more but I am keeping it simple and progress slow. Been hitting 2-3 times/wk. Not really structured yet but he is getting the core lifts in every week. I will keep this thread bumped up Freddy and when u get the chance to talk to JS I will really look forward to hearing from u. Thanks again

Originally Posted by Freddy

I also forgot to mention that JS has trained a ton of kids 10 and under, and none have had any development problems as a result of lifting. Their only side effects are increased strength and coordination, balance, speed, agility, and work ethic.

The important thing is to "let them be kids", and I know you already know this, Thick. As long as he gets to eat his Cheetos and have his play time, the lifting will not be bad for him.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by thick

I totally agree. He gets plenty of playtime. He said this weekend that he hopes he can put his weights with mine when we move b/c he would love to be able to lift with me. He is really into it. He wants to do more but I am keeping it simple and progress slow. Been hitting 2-3 times/wk. Not really structured yet but he is getting the core lifts in every week. I will keep this thread bumped up Freddy and when u get the chance to talk to JS I will really look forward to hearing from u. Thanks again

Slow and steady is fine. He's growing so quickly vertically and horizontally that you don't need to worry about struture at this point. You're doing just fine, ignore the fitness trainer.

[Freddy]

I talked to JS, bud. He's gunna dig up some studies for you when he gets a chance. Shouldn't take long.

[inmyprimeat39]

I did a report on this about 2 years ago bro will try to find the links in the morning and post them. I am a powerlifting coach, freshman football coach
and do my 9 year old's softball team.I started her at the age of 3, starting very light and working on form. She is now 9 years old with a weight of 62lbs.
She benches 95lbs, squats 75 very strick form and deads 125. Hell she loves it and going nice and slow pace wins the game. She will also start armwrestling later this year. Also like she says she is not a girl but rather a girrrrrrrrr LOL.

"P.S. I was also aworld armwrestling champion 2002-2003,
its in our blood"
inmyprime

[thick]

Freddy and Inmyprime, much appreciated guys. thanks

[Bryan Haycock]

Hi,

I personally began weight training when I was 8 years old. This issue has been important to me for many years, especially as my children grow up and consider weight training. Let me share some comments from a recent study and then give some additional important references:

Faigenbaum AD, Milliken LA, Westcott WL. Maximal strength testing in healthy children. Strength Cond Res. 2003 Feb;17(1):162-6.

ABSTRACT
Strength training has become an accepted method of conditioning in children.
However, there is concern among some observers that maximal strength testing may
be inappropriate or potentially injurious to children. The purpose of this study
was to evaluate the safety and efficacy of 1 repetition maximum (1RM) strength
testing in healthy children. Thirty-two girls and 64 boys between 6.2 and 12.3
years of age (mean age 9.3 1.6 years) volunteered to participate in this
study. All subjects were screened for medical conditions that could worsen
during maximal strength testing. Under close supervision by qualified
professionals, each subject performed a 1RM test on 1 upper-body (standing chest
press or seated chest press) and 1 lower-body (leg press or leg extension)
exercise using child-size weight training machines. No injuries occurred during
the study period, and the testing protocol was well tolerated by the subjects.
No gender differences were found for any upper- or lower-body strength test.
These findings demonstrate that healthy children can safely perform 1RM strength
tests, provided that appropriate procedures are followed.

INTRODUCTION
During the last decade, strength training has proven to be a safe and effective method of conditioning in children, provided that appropriate exercise guidelines are followed. Reports indicate that regular participation in a youth strength-training program may increase muscle strength and local muscular endurance, enhance bone mineral density, improve body composition, and reduce the risk of injuries in sports and recreational activities. A growing number of boys and girls seem to be participating in strength-training activities in physical education classes and after school programs, and the qualified acceptance of youth strength training by medical and fitness organizations is becoming universal.

Current strength-training recommendations for children include the performance of 1–3 sets of 6–15 repetitions on a variety of single- and multi-joint exercises. However, maximal strength testing in children remains controversial. Some observers believe that 1 repetition maximum (1RM) testing (the maximal amount of weight that can be lifted at one time through a subject's complete range of motion) is inappropriate for children, and others are concerned that this method of testing may cause structural damage to the developing musculoskeletal system of young weight trainers. A few retrospective case reports have noted damage to the epiphysis, or growth cartilage, of adolescents who are strength trained with heavy weights. However, most of these injuries were due to an improper lifting technique or lack of qualified supervision.

Growth plate fractures have not been reported in any prospective youth strength-training study that used maximal strength testing (e.g., 1RM testing methods on the leg press, chest press, or arm curl exercises) to evaluate training-induced changes in children. Yet some coaches, teachers, and health care providers continue to suggest that children should avoid heavy strength training or single maximal attempts. Attitudes associated with strength-testing children were highlighted in a recent National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA) internet survey, which found that 2,043 of 2,311 responders (88%) believe that 1RM strength testing is inappropriate for children. This issue needs further study and evaluation because most of the forces that children are exposed to in sports and recreational activities are likely to be greater in both exposure time and magnitude compared with competently supervised and properly performed maximal strength tests.




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[thick]

Thanks for the links and study Bryan. I am doing a lot of reading and after hearing back from Freddy and inmyprime I will attempt to end our disagreement. As long as he lives with me, he will continue to lift.

[thick]

bumping up to see if you got any responses yet. thanks