? on Colemans routine

[DonkeyKong]

Is it possible to use the same routine for years and years
and still make gains???How does Coleman do it?Apparently he's used the same routine since he started making only tiny little changes.Though I suppose if you stayed
with the same routine but kept making strength gains you'd get size
gains to right?

[Chip Bronson]

same routine. he just varies the chemical additives...

[dolfe1]

Originally Posted by Chip Bronson

same routine. he just varies the chemical additives...

lol Doesn't matter what training that guy does, he could go move rock around and get bigger.

[Freddy]

If a training program is good, it can stay almost exactly the same for huge periods of time. I did the 5x5 for almost a year straight and my gains never slowed. The only reason I stopped is because I got into competitive powerlifting.

[DonkeyKong]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If a training program is good, it can stay almost exactly the same for huge periods of time. I did the 5x5 for almost a year straight and my gains never slowed. The only reason I stopped is because I got into competitive powerlifting.

I wonder then if I change my routines to often?Usually 4-6weeks
and I change wether or not there still working.

[Bob Smith]

Kong, I would say to stick with the same program for as long as you are getting results from it. Once the gains slow/stop, then take a week off and switch up programs to something quite a bit different from the previous routine.

[HeavyLiftr]

Ronnie Coleman makes two variations - Bulking and contest preparation.

Apparently he focuses on heavy compound movements during the off-season, and closer to competition he brings everything down in terms of weight and goes more for isolation movements. This should be clarified more in his next video.

Also, his diet - according to what he said about his prep for his recent 2003 Olympia win - stayed the same the entire year. That is, no "junk" food, high protein, moderate carbs, moderate fats. Again, watch the way he eats / trains in his video and you'll see why he maintains his body.

I think the biggest gains he's made in the past 3 years has been his legs more than anything. Other than that, he's always had freaky arms and everything else - including legs - but his legs destroyed everyone on that stage, and possibly on this planet. When you have a guy like Coleman who can call 10 wheels on the bar for 10 reps EASY and LIGHT in his video, you know he's special.

[DonkeyKong]

Originally Posted by HeavyLiftr

Ronnie Coleman makes two variations - Bulking and contest preparation.

Apparently he focuses on heavy compound movements during the off-season, and closer to competition he brings everything down in terms of weight and goes more for isolation movements. This should be clarified more in his next video.

Also, his diet - according to what he said about his prep for his recent 2003 Olympia win - stayed the same the entire year. That is, no "junk" food, high protein, moderate carbs, moderate fats. Again, watch the way he eats / trains in his video and you'll see why he maintains his body.

I think the biggest gains he's made in the past 3 years has been his legs more than anything. Other than that, he's always had freaky arms and everything else - including legs - but his legs destroyed everyone on that stage, and possibly on this planet. When you have a guy like Coleman who can call 10 wheels on the bar for 10 reps EASY and LIGHT in his video, you know he's special.

Everything Ive read about Ronnie he always claims to train heavy all year round.And Pre-contest he still trains heavy and does the same workout he does in the off-season.Though he might have made some changes in 03' for the Olympia.

[HeavyLiftr]

Originally Posted by DonkeyKong

Everything Ive read about Ronnie he always claims to train heavy all year round.And Pre-contest he still trains heavy and does the same workout he does in the off-season.Though he might have made some changes in 03' for the Olympia.

Compared to us humanoids, yeah, he does lift relatively heavy year round. But if you listen to his video from 2000 and read what he said at his press conference following the olympia win, he modifies weights during off and on season. What he's maintained year round - starting only last year, again, according to his post olympia press conference - was his diet, staying clean all year.

Remember his heavy is 315 on the shoulder press and his light are two plates for like 15 to 20 reps man. Not exactly "light" for some of us.

Ronnies "heavy" on dumbbell bench presses is 200 pounds for 12 reps. His light is 170 for 15. Again, not exactly the norm for most bodybuilders, even Johnnie Jackson has trouble repping out 170's.

So his light may very well be 4 plates on each side of the bench press for 10 to 12 reps.

[DonkeyKong]

Yeah,I wish I could lift as "light" as Coleman.Strongest Bodybuilder ever.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by DonkeyKong

Yeah,I wish I could lift as "light" as Coleman.Strongest Bodybuilder ever.

That could probably be debated with Kovacs.

[Grizzly]

And if you wanted to do the weight lifted in comparrison to total BW formula, then I think Franco Columbo wins. I've seen a picture of his 200lb ass pulling 750.

[Biggriz]

Professional bodybuilders are the worst place to look for training advice!

[HeavyLiftr]

Originally Posted by Biggriz

Professional bodybuilders are the worst place to look for training advice!

This has to be a joke, right?

You probably shouldn't look to them for advice on starting out, but in terms of copying routines and not weight lifted, I would think that the top bodybuilders are the perfect source to look to, especially nowadays with smarter trainers training boydparts just once a week, not pulling double splits (day / night), and not staying in the gym for more than a littler over an hour.

I train similar to Ronnie in terms of the reps / sets he uses, but nowhere near his weights, and trust me, dude knows how to train properly.

[spound]

oh really, so on leg day you do 5 sets of lunges with each set consisting of lunging the legnth of a football field?