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Old 11-27-2004, 07:30 PM
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BS, are you actually touching the bar on the ground, readjusting, then repulling? Or are you just touching and going? Also, do you use wraps for this exercise?
No wraps, and yes I touch the ground. I dont reset or have a prolonged pause, just long enough for the bar to come to a rest before an explosive contraction.
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No wraps, and yes I touch the ground. I dont reset or have a prolonged pause, just long enough for the bar to come to a rest before an explosive contraction.
BS, Grizz...thanks for the informative answers. I think I may have to try the touch and go method. It would help focus more on explosive power to build back muscles instead of straining my forearms, biceps, and weakening my grip which my current style does.

It's funny that only a couple guys on this board who actually do the exercise right answered my thread.

NONE of the other bros who have been doing the exercise wrong have come forward yet. I'm sure they won't, only to post in a thread entitled "heaviest weight lifted".
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Hmmm. What an interesting thread. I will step up to say I have done them both ways and feel that the 70 degree method works best for me. Yes, I can use more weight and have gone up to 365lbs. for 6 reps max but it's not for the sake of using more weight than the "feel" of the exercise and the results that I get. Each individual is different. I also like T-bar rows which are done in a similar fashion regarding angle. I will also venture out on the limb to say I do use straps when I go extremely heavy. I think grip training is imperative which is why I don't use them on deads, pulldowns, or pull-ups for that matter. When I do my rows the action of the lift seems to tire my hands out faster as the weight rests more on my fingertips as the weight tries to roll out. The straps help keep the bar in place, where it's suppose to be, in my hands.
So there ya' go. A different persepctive on an incredible age-old mass building exercise.
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I've been doing my rows Js style for awhile now, and I wouldn't go back even though I can probably double the weight I use. Recently I discovered that sitting back on my heels, I get a faster/ stronger pull, and I don't flex at the hips as much, but I wonder if i'm deviating too much from proper form.
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I will say this about rows and about lots of other exercises discussed on this board....You shouldn't put much stock in the "feel" a lift gives you, or "the burn" or whatever else. Fact is, JS Rows have been proven scientifically to be superior to any other out there. If you are doing them right, you are recruiting more MUs than any other back exercise out there. And more MUs recruited means more fatigued and exhausted and hence more hypertrophy.

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I've been on the reduced load for about 4 months now. It's not that I don't "get itno the gym", it's just that the gym I get into is for fighting and not for muscles. So, I train MMA Monday thru Saturday morning and then I lift on Saturday and sometimes Sunday.
oh that's right i gotcha now, now i remember from reading old posts of yours, i had forgotten that you were a fighter.
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I will say this about rows and about lots of other exercises discussed on this board....You shouldn't put much stock in the "feel" a lift gives you, or "the burn" or whatever else. Fact is, JS Rows have been proven scientifically to be superior to any other out there. If you are doing them right, you are recruiting more MUs than any other back exercise out there. And more MUs recruited means more fatigued and exhausted and hence more hypertrophy.

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Animal, are JS's rows incorporated in your routine?
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Kenneth,

Of course. I think they are second only to heavy deadlifts themselves as the ultimate back exercise. I do them at least once per week and usually twice per week.

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Of course. I think they are second only to heavy deadlifts themselves as the ultimate back exercise. I do them at least once per week and usually twice per week.

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i've overlooked them for too long and have gone with the 70 degree method. Switching over during this week
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2 more questions on the form of a JS row:

1) Are the thumbs over the bar or under the bar (assuming you are taking an overhand grip with both hands)?

2) Is the head positioned with eyes focused on ground or is the head tilted back with the eyes focused on the wall in front of you?
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