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Old 12-21-2005, 06:13 PM
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im currently in a cutting faze, but im not sure if im tearing down what im trying to build up. im trying to shed fat but im also trying to keep my muscle i have. my concern is when I work out, I start off doing weight lifting for an average of 30-40 mins followed immediatly by 40 mins of cardio. by the time im finished with all of it, I dont feel any of the pump I had before I did cardio. will that stop any gains im trying to produce?
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The pump does not indicate an increase in muscle fiber size,,,,,,,do 100 pushups 3x a week and I bet you will never get a huge chest but you will get one hell of a pump.


How many times a week are you doing 40min cardio
How many days lifting
How many days a week do you rest
What is your caloric intake
What is your age and weight
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current weight 250 bf28%
age35 height 5'9

Ive been following bill phillips BFL program eating six meals a day consisting of 1 serv of Prot, 1 Carb usually just a potato, and a veg
ive been drinking water like a fish on average 1.5 gal a day

I lift 5 days a week (mon-fri)
cardio 5-6 days a week at 65- 70% heart rate for 40 mins
Im rest one day a week
Ive had great results with dropping BF I came from 37% in one month.but the scale doesnt seem to want to budge much at all. is this a good thing? I appreciate all your help

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did you spell the word "phase" phonetically as "faze?"

As a high school teacher I stand embarrassed.
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ok that doesnt help me at all, but thanks for the flaming it should help me with my question.
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current weight 250 bf28%
age35 height 5'9

Ive been following bill phillips BFL program eating six meals a day consisting of 1 serv of Prot, 1 Carb usually just a potato, and a veg
ive been drinking water like a fish on average 1.5 gal a day

I lift 5 days a week (mon-fri)
cardio 5-6 days a week at 65- 70% heart rate for 40 mins
Im rest one day a week
Ive had great results with dropping BF I came from 37% in one month.but the scale doesnt seem to want to budge much at all. is this a good thing? I appreciate all your help

Vader
Excessive cardio will make it hard to hold on to your muscle, I would cut it back to 3-4 days a week........the fat comes off easy at first so don't worry about a week here and their when you don't seem to lose fat.
Drop the potato and try sweet potatos....better carb source IMO.

Post your weight workout...

AnimalMass could you correct my spelling and grammer on this post?....thanks.
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Thanks for your help formanrules,

I truly appreciate your time and efforts, I hope that I spell to your liking...Ill study more before I Post again, didnt know I would be tested on a Bodybuilding website,

Day 1: chest, bi's, forearms
Day 2: back, abs
Day3: shoulders, tri's
Day 4 Legs, abs
Day 5 Light circuit full body (feeder)

I’m trying to drop to around 200 but the scale moves quite slowly, do you suggest I count calories?

Thanks
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I Think you are definitely over-training. Firstly, your lifting 5 days a week, and doing cardio for 5-6 days a week. Secondly, you are trying to build muscle while lose fat. This goal of yours will ultimately get you discouraged as it is very difficult to do.

What i suggest:

-Try the 5x5 program. It has you lifting 3 days a week, and hits important bodyparts more than once a week like your program shows. It really cant be beat for building muscle, or in your case preserve muscle and build strength as you follow through with your cutting PHASE (not 'faze').

-The 5x5 is also great because they are total body workouts and have you squatting 3 days a week, which burns a lot of calories, and raises your test levels. You will be burnt out by the end of the week if you do it correctly, I promise you.

-You will have 3 "off days" with the 5x5 which is great for a cutting phase. Stick cardio in during your week 2-3 times. More is not always better. Give your body a break when it needs it. It goes a long way.

- Diet, Diet, Diet, Diet, Diet, Diet, Diet!!!! But dont restrict yourself of too many calories. Your success in your cutting phase lies more so within your diet than your training. Make sure you nail this one. Get your oatmeals, veggies, and lean meats ready. Throw in a cheat day every so often.

This is a gradual process, not an overnight success. Stick with it, and youll learn how your body reacts to different things.
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Also take a week off before any more training. If youve been doing what you posted for a while, your body def needs a break.
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Thanks so much Young,

I appreciate your help, its so darn confusing, you would think more is better especially in the gym. I have to say I love to work out each day, but if I'm tearing down what I'm working for, I'm definitely going to restart at a slower Pace.
How does the 5x5 program work? could you possibly give a breakdown of the training days?


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Thanks for your help formanrules,

I truly appreciate your time and efforts, I hope that I spell to your liking...Ill study more before I Post again, didnt know I would be tested on a Bodybuilding website,

Day 1: chest, bi's, forearms
Day 2: back, abs
Day3: shoulders, tri's
Day 4 Legs, abs
Day 5 Light circuit full body (feeder)

I’m trying to drop to around 200 but the scale moves quite slowly, do you suggest I count calories?

Thanks
Yes definitely count calories, i dont know how any one can diet without knowing exactly what they are eating on a daily basis i weigh and record everything i eat on a daily basis even off season, it makes making adjustments to your diet so much easier than just eyeballing portions.
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Thanks J,

its kind of confusing on considering what to set my calories at. I know my BMR, but I don't know how to adjust for my workouts on a per hour calorie expenditure. might you have some suggestions? Thank very much

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