Training Forum: This is a discussion on TRT for competitive powerlifters? within the Bodybuilding forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; I have a couple of senior level world class powerlifters who are now patients. Both have been shown to suffer ...
I have a couple of senior level world class powerlifters who are now patients. Both have been shown to suffer hypogonadism. I need to know if supplementing legit TRT will cause them to test positive for steroids at PL events.
As long as there testosterone is within physiological
ranges, there should be no problem. I competed in a few MuscleMania (drug tested) competitions, many of those guys use low doses of test to beat the drug test.
What type of testing protocal is going to be used?
Also, I have heard that many sports are now looking for HCG in the urine, just to be safe I would have them discontinue hcg 3 weeks before the competition ( I THINK 3 weeks is the detection time).
Hope this helps, I will try to dig up some more detailed info for you.
It can be tested, but this is where my knowlege STOPS! Would supplementing physiological doses of TRT "throw off" the eptitest/testosterone ratio?? If not, then they are good to go. Typically, when a sporting event tests for AAS, they do so with a urinalysis, any other means would be too expesive. It is my belief that testosterone does not show up in urine because it is bioidentical, but the metabolites of AAS show up. So as long as these guys are not using anything but TRT, they should be fine.
I have a couple of senior level world class powerlifters who are now patients. Both have been shown to suffer hypogonadism. I need to know if supplementing legit TRT will cause them to test positive for steroids at PL events.
Anabolic-androgneic steroids, including testosterone, are banned, period.
Unless, they obtain a medical exemption from the sports body that sanctions the event.
At any rate, it they want to abide by the banned substance list, then they need to reveal their exogenous testosterone use.
Otherwise, they are no better or worse than anyone else who tries to beat the test.
It is highly unlikely they will get a medical exemption, so unless their T levels were very carefully monitored to be within normal ranges then they could easily test positive.
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It is highly unlikely they will get a medical exemption, so unless their T levels were very carefully monitored to be within normal ranges then they could easily test positive.
T levels are irrelevant. What matters is whether the drug-tested athlete is taking exogenous AAS, not what their T levels are.
T levels vary among individuals. The use of exogenous T to establish a certain range of variability is explicitly forbidden by all drug testing bodies that I know of...
The typical argument used by those in favor of drug-testing is that this is cheating. This is unfair.
But the argument that "levelling" the T levels of participants creates a more "level playing field" seems plausible, eh?
I shouldn't think test/epitest ratio would be thrown off as long as androgen levels remain within normal range.
Androgen levels don't even have to be in the normal range.
To answer your original question, they can take 200-300mg per week of testosterone ester and still pass the test/epi test (and this is commonly done). But you might not want to tell them that!
The reason that this is possible is because of the lax standard for a positive doping result i.e. the test/epi ration has to exceed 12:1 to register a positive. In non-doped subjects, the ratio is typically 1:1
As an elite level powerlifter myself I have pretty strong feelings on this issue. I don't want to sound "preachy" here, but the fact is that powerlifting has plenty of non-tested feds (which is where I lift). To lift in the tested feds against other competitors who believe that their competition is "natural" is cheating in my opinion.
Now I understand that at the World Class level, that most guys are on regardless of the federation, but it still doesn't make it right when there are options for powerlifters who use.
TRT for competitive powerlifters? 
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