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Old 04-14-2008, 10:42 PM
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I have always done heavier weight to gain mass. I try to keep the best form I can with the heavy weight low reps I do. But I was wondering people opinions on doing heavier wieght with low reps or do lighter wieght with perfect form with higher reps. The reason I ask this is my friend I had recently visited looked like he gained some serious size and was completely ripped. However we went to the gym and I noticed that he did a lot of concentration exercises along with pull ups and push ups. What are some of your opinions on how to gain the best mass?
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I have always done heavier weight to gain mass. I try to keep the best form I can with the heavy weight low reps I do. But I was wondering people opinions on doing heavier wieght with low reps or do lighter wieght with perfect form with higher reps. The reason I ask this is my friend I had recently visited looked like he gained some serious size and was completely ripped. However we went to the gym and I noticed that he did a lot of concentration exercises along with pull ups and push ups. What are some of your opinions on how to gain the best mass?
Everyone is different but let me give you an example. When i do incline bench presses i have to have my back all straight or else i won't feel my chest working. Since i started this, i've seen great improvment, mass wise.

On the flat bench now i always keep my lower back a little arched because if i don't, my chest doesn't respond either and my shoulders hurt like hell.

Conclusion: Try and see what works for you best! =)
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I have always done heavier weight to gain mass. I try to keep the best form I can with the heavy weight low reps I do. But I was wondering people opinions on doing heavier wieght with low reps or do lighter wieght with perfect form with higher reps. The reason I ask this is my friend I had recently visited looked like he gained some serious size and was completely ripped. However we went to the gym and I noticed that he did a lot of concentration exercises along with pull ups and push ups. What are some of your opinions on how to gain the best mass?

Stick with your own style and method of training that you know works.
Don't change yours because some pretty boy turns up looking cut.
Heavy reps with good form is the way to go,but don't go too heavy, too low, too often.
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Stick with your own style and method of training that you know works.
Don't change yours because some pretty boy turns up looking cut.
Heavy reps with good form is the way to go,but don't go too heavy, too low, too often.
Jasthace knows what he is talking about..but i would add you need to change your workout routine about every 2-3 months.I would encourage you to try 6 weeks of higher rep lighter wieghts and let the ligaments and tendons catch up to the muscles. Something like warm up with 15-20 reps,12,10,10,10,8.....
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I have always done heavier weight to gain mass. I try to keep the best form I can with the heavy weight low reps I do. But I was wondering people opinions on doing heavier wieght with low reps or do lighter wieght with perfect form with higher reps. The reason I ask this is my friend I had recently visited looked like he gained some serious size and was completely ripped. However we went to the gym and I noticed that he did a lot of concentration exercises along with pull ups and push ups. What are some of your opinions on how to gain the best mass?

The appearance of size is probably due to being ripped. Being cut or ripped makes anyone look bigger.

More reps over heavy low - More reps stimulate the release of natural HGH. HGH is produced during sleep and aids the body in removing fat. Hence the recent studies/reports that lack of sleep may be keeping some people fat.

Lighter training is more like doing interval work during cardio. I go this link because the two pics are pleasant to look at. This is about interval training in cardio, but the principles are the same for weight training and natural HGH stimulation.

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I grow better when I alter my reps.. So I do my main power movements in the 4 sets and 8-12 rep range. I do isolation stuff 4 sets around 12-18 reps.. Depends really, sometimes I do my core shit at 5x5 and my isolation at 10x10..

I do better when I do both.

My buddy is pretty big looking but only after a pump. He does a lot of cybex machines and pullups/chins/dips/push up variations, and a lot of cable work..

If you look at the pros that move really heavy weight their form is quite questionable...

I agree with jasthace, everyone's bio-mechanics are different so you need to stick with what works for you.. Not every movement needs to be strict to the T, it's a way to guage how we should more or less be doing the movement..
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